A Conversation with Carmen Leilani De Jesus

"Accessing Desire to Energize Work"

Carmen Leilani De Jesus, from the School of Consent, joined us for a conversation about how she uses the Wheel of Consent framework to discern what she is "willing to," or "wants to" do related to work, and how getting clear on our desires can help liberate creativity and energy.

We also explored how that relates to our business models, and how work can be a co-creative and consensual experience.

Juicy resources for you!

Carmen and I shared lots of resources, so below I'm sharing a lovely list of links for you to explore.


The School of Consent

​The Wheel of Consent diagram

​The Wheel in many languages ​​

Dr Betty Martin offers a more comprehensive explanation of The Wheel

Carmen's brilliance at The Muse You Need Most​

Karryn's Instagram video about the Role of Consent in our Livelihoods, where I talk more about my take on The Wheel and its shadows.

​adrienne maree brown, author of "Emergent Strategy" and "Pleasure Activism"

​Tricia Hersey, The Nap Bishop and originator of The Nap Ministry

Sonya Renee Taylor and her work around The Body is Not an Apology

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